Denver: We are going to do Take 5 right now with Max Stier, the President and CEO of the Partnership for Public Service. Are you ready Max?

Max: I’m as ready as I’ll ever be.

Denver: What idea in philanthropy is ready for retirement?

Max: That you have to be able to show quantitative metrics for everything.

Denver: What should we be worried about?

Max: We should be worried about the state of our government because it’s fundamental to the health our democracy.

Denver: What is your favorite documentary or movie?

Max: I love… Pan’s Labyrinth!

Denver: What is today’s most underreported story?

Max: The fact that our government is doing wonderful things even while President Trump is causing lots of challenges.

Denver: What is something you believe that other people think is just insane?

Max: I believe that we can make the government an effective organization.

Denver: What is something really weird or unsettling that happens to you on a regular basis?

Max: I don’t watch any television or play any video games.

Denver: What have you changed your mind about on for the last ten years and why?

Max: I don’t think I do change my mind.

Denver: When is the last time that you were voluntarily disconnected from all your devices?

Max: I took a trip to the Galápagos and that was phenomenal and well worth disconnecting for.

Denver: If you were a kitchen utensil what would you be?

Max: I’d be the stove.

Denver: What do you wish people would be more open and honest about?

Max: Communicating around tough issues.

Denver: If you were to start your career all over again to do something completely different in away from this field, what would it be?

Max: Be a park ranger.

Denver: If you could have one gigantic billboard anywhere with anything on it, what would it say, Max?

Max: Go to

Denver: What is something, whether related to your work or not, that you are just so excited about in the moment?

Max: I love reading to my kids and that is the best.

Denver: What is the one book you would give as a gift?

Max: Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman.

Denver: Given a choice of anyone famous in the world, whether dead or alive, who you could have come over to your house as a dinner guess, who would you invite?

Max: Daniel Kahneman.

Denver: What advice would you give to your 25-year old self?

Max: Don’t sweat things you can’t control.

Denver: What is the worst advice you see being dispensed to young people today?

Max: Plan your lives.

Denver: And finally, do you have quote you live your life by or think of often?

Max: “And this above all: to thine own self, be true”


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